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Pilgrim
04-16-2007, 09:16 AM
that's right... Pathfinder.

I was in San Diego with next to nothing to do, and having just walked several miles wanted to sit in a darkened Air Conditioned theater and just relax a bit. At the mall I'd found my way to all the showings of decent movies were a few hours off, but behold Pathfinder in all it's glory was starting in just 15 minutes. 1.5 hours of escapism here I come!

Little did I know what a learning experience it would be!

Spoiler warning... but trust me it doesn't matter:

I learned so much!

First: Viking are all stupid. Not just that simple stupid that everyone stumbles into... like seeing some really hot girl from behind and admiring her for several minutes before finally finding the courage to go talk to her just to find out she's a dude... that's stupid, Vikings are far dumber then that! The fact the Vikings managed to make it across the ocean made me come real close to converting to the Norse religion, I mean any gods that can get that group of absolute idiots across the pond deserves some amount of worship.
As the best example of how stupid the vikings are, Our Hero states that the Vikings are masters of Ice and snow... ok that tracks. So he then manages to kill them ALL by drowning them when they fall through some ICE and the rest he gets with an avalanche of SNOW. How dumb do you have to be when you're the supposed masters of ice and snow and yet your entire raiding party are killed by ICE AND SNOW!!!!

Second: Indians are all stupid. The groups of Indians (Native Americans for you Lefties) are a bunch of idiots. The ones that aren't killed whilst toking up real good on the pipe (No really) die because they fail that one roll. It really did remind me of a role playing group where the GM wanted to thin the herd so made sure that there were plenty of ways to kill off his players. Most die by falling into a clever trap hidden by the other indians in the jungle... yeah let me roll this out for you, the Indians all die in the Clever trap laid by the other indians to catch the Viking who only understand Ice and Snow, but manage to avoid the Jungle trap and all die in the Ice and Snow... while the indians who should know the Jungle all die there...

OK then.

Also the Indians are a bunch of Racists. They won't let the Stupid white guy play any of their Reindeer games. Bringing me to point the Third:

Point the Third: Not being allowed to play the Reindeer games of either culture makes you immune to the stupidity of both groups (Able to not only survive the Jungle trap, but also survive the Ice and Snow) it also makes you irresistible to the Ladies, and gives you a genetic ability to not only wuss out of the simplest tasks (How hard can killing a baby really be?) but to also be a master swordsman... now don't get me wrong, when everyone attacks you in a double overhead swing in a Chest out hips back Valejo type pose, it's not THAT hard to gut them, but still, being a master swordsman rocks!
And when you are the White guy, Armor does not matter. You cut through it like butter, and no one ever gets close enough to your own gleaming flesh to ever have a problem.

Forth: Every movie must have some higher social meaning. This particular one was that everyone's an idiot, and whoever runs away better, and manages to not die horribly will get to have some Chick lead them at the end.

Honestly When I realized I was going to see pathfinder, despite my better judgment I went in expecting to see some silly fun and a few sword fights... This movie doesn't even have that.

I would rather watch Mortal Kombat Annihilation again then ever have this one cross my path again. Honestly the single worst film I've seen in a theater in probably the last 15 years.

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 09:19 AM
I would rather watch Mortal Kombat Annihilation again then ever have this one cross my path again. Honestly the single worst film I've seen in a theater in probably the last 15 years.


Ouch, this movie was really be bad! :eek:
I didn't plan on seeing this one in the theaters anyway. I figured maybe if somone let me borrow it on DVD when it comes out.

Pilgrim
04-16-2007, 09:22 AM
This is the first, and last time I'll ever say this about any movie until another this bad comes out:


Pirate it.

Steal it and watch it for free just to see how awful it is, then laugh at how you did it illegally and the makers of this movie made nothing from it!!

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 09:23 AM
Bad as say, Alexander? Thin Red Line? Hard Rain? Wild Wild West? That bad?

Pilgrim
04-16-2007, 09:32 AM
ok let's see here:

Alexander had some battles, not the greatest ever but at least entertaining, and it also had Rosario Dawson Naked.

Thin Red Line had some shooting, and some real incoherence, but was mainly bad because it was about an aspect of War that is hard to put on film.

Hard Rain had Morgan Freeman, and therefore cannot be an actually bad movie.

Wild Wild West was entertaining, and had some spiffy effects. Not a good movie, but at least worth the ride.

To put it in perspective for you, I'm going to start a Support group
Concerned Realists Again Pathfinder.

Or CRAP for short... because that's what pathfinder is CRAP. I honestly can't find a single redeeming factor of this film... and I know that somewhere, somehow, some guy is proud of his work on it and wondering if this will be the year the academy gives him the nod... heck he's probably practicing his speech in his underwear in front of the mirror just in case. I want to find that man and stomp him to death.

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 09:34 AM
Well we saw Hard Rain for free remember, and I still wanted my money back . LOL.

So Pathfinder bad? Ok, cool, important safety tip.

Rorschach
04-16-2007, 09:44 AM
Given how bad some horror and remake knockoffs have been lately, to top them takes real lack of talent. It's sad when you see a great idea (Indians vs Vikings!) and a great costume designer trapped in a really bad production. But then, we've all been stuck in some really bad project at work before...

-D

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 09:47 AM
The #1 movie in the country was Disturbia. Like I told Dale, I liked it more when it was called REAR WINDOW.

Pilgrim
04-16-2007, 09:59 AM
I do have to admit that the Costumes in Pathfinder are pretty nifty.

The Viking armor and helms are beautiful and again, straight out of a good Valejo picture...

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 10:01 AM
I saw the poster and the trailer and thought Molly Hatchet had a new album cover. Frazzetta would be proud.

mruch89
04-16-2007, 10:10 AM
Wow, I had expected this to be bad when I saw the first preview. The whole concept is so utterly stupid it had to have been written by some stupid gamers on drugs.
"Dude what if my character was a Viking, raised by Indians, but still had his Iron sword?"
"That would be so cool, and what if th Vikings came back and he had to fight them?"
"Dude, we could make that a movie"

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 10:12 AM
Mike, you just summed up most pitch meetings in Hollywood! LOL.

Pilgrim
04-16-2007, 10:14 AM
Cliches they managed to work into pathfinder:


Old wizened wise man who's also constantly stoned, and whoops viking butt, and has to die to inspire the Stupid White guy (because his entire adopted family being killed wasn't enough)

running from the Jungle into the mountains, for the SOLE purpose of sliding back down the mountain on a shield. (They then go back into the mountains to kill all the vikings with Ice and snow, this is earlier and involves Sledding!) Also the Vikings get a hold of Super Indian Sleds that allow 2 people per sled giving one guy to swing at Stupid white guy on a shield.

Hot Girl only likes the outcast White guy that everyone else has the common sense to hate.

Indian who Doesn't talk, and Doesn't do anything, Dies early, for NO APPARENT REASON, after being set up as a side kick for Stupid White guy.

Indians Smoke way too much pot. And they even slip in the entire take a long draw, then do the Cheech and Chong, talk while exhaling thing. no really.

Man-thongs

ColGreeley
04-16-2007, 10:15 AM
Lol. Lmao

MyMyst8k
04-17-2007, 10:12 AM
Yeah, so I had the misfortune of seeing this movie last night. I’ll admit, I like medieval movies, and will give them a lot of latitude. But aside from some cool Chaos Warrior Viking costumes, this movie blew chunks. I’ve got to say though, the movie becomes a lot more fun if you are rooting for the Vikings like I was. There were some awesome pillage and burn scenes. “Look at that Indian’s head fly!”

In a lot of ways I relate this movie to something akin to Predator vs. Aliens. But instead of sci-fi we’ve got medieval cultures fighting each other. It’s kind of like a bunch of stoners were sitting around and started debating:

Stoner #1: “Duuuude, who do you think would win if the Indians fought ummmm, I don’t know, ummmm, the Vikings?”

Stoner #2: “Duuude, ummmm, I don’t know, ummm, the Indians?”

Stoner #3: “Duuude, no way man. The Vikings would totally kick the Indians ass. They’ve got like swords and sh#t.”

Stoner #2: “But dude, the Indians got like, bows and arrows. Those beat swords.”

Stoner #3: “Dude, Vikings had bows ‘n arrows too, man. And they have, like armor and stuff.”

Stoner #2: “Bummer man.”

Stoner #1: “Dudes, dudes, dudes, I know who would win – a Viking Indian!”

Stoner #2 and #3 in unison: “Duuuuuude!”

One can only wonder what prompted this conversation to be made into a movie. I also wonder what kind of thought process they went through while making the movie.

Producer: “Alright everybody, we need to amp the action up in this movie. It’s just not snappy enough.”

Writer: “But dude, we’ve already got twice as many fight scenes as we have dialogue. What else could we add?”

Producer: “I know! We need a car chase scene!”

Director: “Umm, sir, the movie is set a thousand years before cars were invented.”

Producer: “I know that. What do you think I am, retarded? What I mean is we need something like a car chase scene. We need speed! What can you give me?”

Director: “Well, umm, I don’t know. I mean this is an unspoiled wilderness and all. It’s not like there is a lot of things that go fast, aside from the avalanche and all.”

Writer: “That’s it! We’ll have a chase scene down the mountain! They could sled down it or something.”

Director: “OK, but where are they going to get the sleds?”

Writer: “Well, um, I don’t know, um . . . Oh snap! Wait, I just watched Willow last night! The Viking Indian dude could totally grab a shield and slide down on that.”

Producer: “Yeah, yeah! I like it. But what about the Vikings? What are they going to chase him in?”

Writer: “Umm, well, I don’t know. Maybe they grab their dog sled and slide down on that.”

Director: “Dog sled? Do Vikings have dog sleds?”

Producer: “I think that’s Eskimos?”

Writer: “It doesn’t matter. They could totally grab their dog sled that they brought across the ocean with them, just in case they needed to sled down a mountain to chase somebody.”

Director: “Does that mean we need to put dogs in the movie?”

Producer: “No way. There’s no room in the budget for animal control.”


One can only marvel at the sheer stupidity of it all.

Pilgrim
04-17-2007, 10:15 AM
Donovan,

Moved your eloquent and spot on Pathfinder review into the existing PAthfinder thread :)

I like flexing the Mod Muscle every now and again!

MyMyst8k
04-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Donovan,

Moved your eloquent and spot on Pathfinder review into the existing PAthfinder thread :)

I like flexing the Mod Muscle every now and again!

That's what I get for posting before reading through the other threads. ;)

Thanks Jim.

Pilgrim
04-17-2007, 10:25 AM
It's nice to know that at least some one else shares my pain!

:(

The Watcher
04-17-2007, 10:44 AM
Wealthy Producer #1: Say, how can we make even more money?

Wealthy Producer #2: Well, comic book movies are the big thing right now.

Wealthy Producer #1: Marvel and DC are charging a lot for their rights... this group called 'Dark Horse' sounds like they could use some publicity... I'll bet we can get one of their titles for cheap!

Wealthy Producer #2: BRILLIANT! What else do you have?

Wealthy Producer #1: You know those kittens we like to eat? What if we ate them raw?

Wealthy Producer #2: Eating raw kittens? BRILLIANT!

Rorschach
04-17-2007, 10:59 AM
Wait...lets check something:

Was PATHFINDER worse than ERAGON?
Was PATHFINDER worse than THE REAPING?

Was PATHFINDER so bad that it could, in any way, be fun to MST?

-D

Pilgrim
04-17-2007, 11:10 AM
I haven't watched Eragon yet... and I don't do Horror movies, so can't really judge on either of those fronts.

But I can say it would make an excellent MST3k.

Speaking of, anyone heard about those guys new project, where they make Pod cast mp3 thingies that you cue and play while watching the movie...

I'll have to find that website...

Ah there we are.

RiffTrax (http://www.rifftrax.com/)

Blackraine
04-17-2007, 11:23 AM
A movie this bad, I've got to see!

As for the premise of the movie... it's actually not that bad. I mean, it's not really Anachronistic at all, if you think about it. It's one of those dark corners of history that no one ever talks about.

Pilgrim
04-17-2007, 11:27 AM
Freakishly, on my trip after finishing Point of Impact I went back to my Travel Mainstay Clive Cussler and got Valhalla Rising (A Dirk Pitt Novel)

The first chapter is about a bunch of Vikings killing Indians and vice-versa.

Warmaster
04-17-2007, 03:36 PM
Don't forget the scenery. Pathfinder did have good foilage.

Stu
04-17-2007, 04:42 PM
Dirk Pitt, baby!!

Pilgrim
04-17-2007, 05:42 PM
Dirk Pitt Rules!

honestly me and Dirk have been from one end of this planet to the other together, I only Ever read his books when I'm traveling, and once home I finish the one I'm on then forget the series till another trip..

But he always brings me back!


And I just watched Eragon.

Now first off, while being a direct Star Wars rip-off, this isn't a horrible movie. The Dragons are spiffy, the plot is simple, and the action is kinda fun. And the sad thing is with the state of Fantasy movies on this planet, this one probably ranks in the top 90% or so... Somewhere above Willow, but bellow any of the really good Fantasy.

And Pathfinder makes Eragon look like Citizen Kane in comparison.